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does anyone know / what to share the secrets of the shift map selection lookup table?
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On 12/28/2023 at 12:44 PM, Roland@pcmtec said:
Load is calculated via speed density. So your speed density slope and offset tables will need adjusting to suit the engines new VE. Being an NA motor with higher compression you are going to read more airmass (and hence load) at a given MAP pressure .
Or you have a have the map sensor offset flipped (turbo logic negates the offset for some odd reason).
Do you have a turbo cal or the turbo logic switch enabled?
does the predicted load tables do anything for the load calculation, or is that more to estimate TQ produced at a certain load number?
On 12/28/2023 at 12:30 PM, Turboidiot said:Would there be any reasons or tips on why load at 14.7 psi of MAP would read higher than 2 like 2.6. Seems like the map reads correct but load is scaled incorrectly?
NA PCM converted to 2bar logic with 2 bar map sensor.
recent fg +turbo i was data login was hitting a load of around 1.5 at 10.5psi and i thought that seemed a little low. so looking into possible explanations for that now.
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On 7/21/2020 at 8:04 AM, Darryl@pcmtec said:
My understanding is the BF loom has the wires for the manual like the clutch switch. You will need to check the clutch switch is plugged in. Also if the car still has the auto loom then you will need to ensure the CAN wire that goes though the ZF has been connected. Have a look at this post for the wiring requirements:
wat happens without the clutch switch?
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I had my turbo teritory unlocked in 1-2-3 in drive. I noticed it in mid throttle take off seemed smoither.
I also took to drive maps, vs preformance maps n halved the difference (except the 100 percentage shifts). This made the most difference in low to mid throttle movement as it would holder the lower gear longer instead of basically trying to leave the line in 2nd
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18 minutes ago, Andre34 said:
Sorry to bring back an old thread. Looking at the table above, would i just need to change the number to 0 for no converter lockup or would i need to add a high number?
High numbers.
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2 minutes ago, Milanski said:
Has anyone tested at what speed the fans get told to turn off:
auF0380 looks like a start for fans at load, which is tied in with auF0379 load trigger i presume. Seem like this is not used as we rarely get above 160kmh
auF2199 min speed to turn off fans - could be this one?
auF1424 speed below which base fan speed is required - is that slow fans if the temperature has not reached high speed enable auF0377.
I may have run some wires and LED's onto the relays and play with the speed numbers to work this out.
i never got the load trigger to show up in logs.
i only trust the low and high speed cut ins. I usually drop them by about 15 degrees c for a normal car or if its a burnout car i drop high speed to kick in around 45/50deg
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On 1/3/2023 at 12:30 PM, Plumbs said:
Ok thanks for the reply, I’ll look into the other torque requesters that u have said .
cheers .Hey @Plumbs cant believe i only just found this thread, ive been following all the BTR hints you have give out in other threads.
are you sure the BTR commands the TRC tq reduction on shifts? the zf uses the Trans Shift Modulation TQ reduction. Are you just triggering TRC as you have to much power?
can you clear up the btr shift map names and what they actually do, i believe you said somewhere else that towing map is actually performance mode?
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3 hours ago, samireland said:
note that sometimes the car completely stalls, but other times it runs really rough (I believe that this is a cylinder cut safety mode due to the PCM thinking that it doesn't have control over the throttle position any more). But similar to the OP, the problem goes away for me as soon as I restart the car. I may be experiencing two different problems here but I think they are both related to the FG throttle body and IPC tables
my setup would just randomly go into ETC mode. so etc light on dash and return to idle sounding like antilag as its in protection mode. i dont run the fg plastic on this car anymore, but i had a look through the old file.
auF0082 - set to FG na.
auF0075 - max tb - still set to b series 83
auF0083 - set to B series config, all under pedal is std. i think there is where i got into trouble hitting error codes playing in here.
auF12805 - i dont have acess to being professional version. so std.
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On 12/21/2022 at 8:44 AM, Roland@pcmtec said:
We recommend the DLP 8 channel analog input cable. You can then wire in analog inputs and scale them using equations. Canbus based datalogging is something we have wanted to do for a long time but resources haven't permitted it.
We are working on a canbus based flex fuel device for the newer Fords, as part of this we may add datalogging for other CAN IDs.
did you get anywhere with the canbus logging?
i need another wideband for road tuning and was looking at the AEM one with the can bus module
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19 minutes ago, Puffwagon said:
If you want to see if your TB is a restriction, you log MAP and see if it holds 100kpa or falls down at the end to less than 100kpa. No restriction will hold the same amount of vacuum, some restriction will be more vacuum ie less than 100kpa. My VN V8 through the stock intake manifold drops to 85kpa up top, a very clear restriction.
i like that scientific.
went over a couple of the dyno logs and after 5500 rpm it starts slowly going down but it only goes to 96KPA.
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3 minutes ago, Puffwagon said:
I've made over 1300hp through a single stock BF TB. I wonder if it would have made more with a bigger TB?
oh sorry im talking NA
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old mate here said there is a small gain in running two throttle bodys.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2262823637210304
just seems overkill to go two std 70mms and that's why i wondered if the Shelby twin 60mm would be benifical at all.
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Hey
just wondering on anyone's experience fitting larger throttle bodys to a barra?
I have seen the dual std setup but wondered how a big single or event the gt500 twin throttle goes? is there any easy alternative the std pcm is happy with?
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2 minutes ago, Puffwagon said:
I found some info on the ti performance site that said na is 300kpa and turbo is 400kpa. It's a multiplication cos we need a ratio change, not addition or subtraction.
I forgot to mention I bought a tailpipe clamp for my O2 sensor so it just gets clamped into the end of the exhaust, same as you would have on a dyno.
Na fg is 2.7 bar. So its a 1.3 bar rise.
I go in my own head reading injectors sheets. Its wasn't allways a set number raise for pressure differential on injectors. I couldn't find any sheets on the fg longnoses, so i kinda gave up.
I just fitted the fg f6 injectors and went on my way.
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On 6/23/2023 at 5:04 PM, adhdesigns said:
Like Puffwagon said I was logging rpm against throttle position. The throttle position axis for some strange reason labeled itself "Load". Anyway it let me see where and how often I see the high loads and hopefully I don't throw away my fuel economy. We will see. I took it for a run today. No complaints and I'm pleased with what I noticed.
Need to drive it some more.
Cheers folks
Did you have any further play with the cam timming? Get any noteworthy results?
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On 1/30/2024 at 12:12 PM, Puffwagon said:
Multiply the slopes by 1.33 and you'll be close to spot on.
Buy one of these, it makes life much easier. I got a window mount and extra cable, was about $700. Pity the territory is too long and the cable doesn't reach but oh well.
yeah i compared the b series and the high slopes were 1.23 and low slopes 1.31 more from 3 to 4 bar. I used that calculation and the car starts and revs fine. but id be using the std ford 02 to dial them in any futher.
the local place I usually get my wideband i like is out of stock and for some reason there more from online retailers.
been tossing up pulling the wideband from the terry to dial it in, or fit the f6 injectors i have > but im just skeptical about the lack of long nose.
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Howdy
Wondered if anyone wanted to share there injector data for the na fg injectors at 4 bar?
Just being a bit lazy and haven't put the wideband in this car.
Cheers
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On 10/13/2023 at 7:33 PM, Andre34 said:
They are Bosch 627cc/min EV14 Injectors 0 280 158 123
ive used some dekka 650cc injector data to help me get started because I couldn’t find anything online at all for mine.
they’re on an na bf xr6. If someone has data for them that would be awesome.
Bosch 627cc/min EV14 Injectors 0 280 158 123*
i used these on my bf/turbo r31. i found they were near impossible to dial in with the 2.7bar factory regulator. i found some flow information whitch indicated they dident like opening at 2.5bar and i figured at idle maybe that's why i was having issues.
so with a 4 bar regulator, this is what i was last using.
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9 minutes ago, Puffwagon said:
Ima buy my wife an external gate for xmas and if she complains ima show her this post
My wife said i could turbo her rav4 at end of warranty... That must be soon.. maybe she needs a whirly boi n noise maker
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External wastegate fixes everything
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desired boost of 10 is 4.9 psi because its in INHG.
in your log your duty cycle is 0 as your boost error is huge out of the get go.
your hitting 20 psi and a bit of timing are you running e85? i hope so.
you have more of a mecanical issue to diagnose before playing with the boost controler. bypass the boost controler and data log the boost you get. thats your baseline
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Howdy,
i was thinking of running this fg we have for skids on e85.
now i have a 4 bar reg i can put in it.... will that be enough injector size to run e85 on a pretty stock na barra?
i believe that will get me from 27lb hr to just over 34lb hr with the scaling. so that would be, 25 percent more?
has anyone done this and can give real world injector requirements.
cheers
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On 11/16/2023 at 8:51 AM, ZMB said:
Full disclaimer I am new to falcon PCM tuning although I have had some experience tuning some standalone ECU's and piggbacks in the past on the street.
I cant seem to figure out how the tune on my car is commanding boost.
The AUF16463 open loop duty cycle is set quite low across the whole range
The AUF16459 target boost table is set to 13.8 the whole way through (which im sure would be causing boost error values as it cant get that boost everywhere)
The AUF0511 boost sensor volt max has been set to 12v, I understand 4.8/4.9 is the recommended maximum to still retain boost safety so this has been disabled.
The AUF1098 Boost error to activate P1227 was set to -43.8 instead of the stock value of -2.5
When I set this value back to stock and go for a drive I basically just get little to no boost so I assume this is triggering P1227 due to the fact that that AUF16459 is requesting impossible values at certain RPM.AUF16463 - for fun you can use basic math to try get it in the ballpark, but there are a lot of mechanical factors at play... so say you have a 7 psi spring and you want 10psi, 10/7=1.42...so in theroy you need about 0.42 of boost control to get your desired boost. now remember what i just said, theres a ton of mecanical factors at play and you see the table goes through ll the temp , as that plays a big afect to. leave closed loop boost control on, data log and see how close the boost error and wg duity are.
target boost table can be whatever you want. 13.8 is measured in inhg, so its commanding 6.7psi. personally i like to slow ramp the boost in around 2000 rpm range and ramp into boost around 3k. it would be advisable when playing to play in the higer areas anyway you dont want an overboost to runaway on you. you will notice there is a temp value here to, so i like to target gate pressure when the air is hot, like over 75 degrees or so.
leave every thing else standard while your playing and have done a few data logs to understand how its all plays out.
actually thats wrong, change your under boost duity cycle from 1 to whatever your higest value in your closed loop table is. for me with a 10 psi spring, if it goes overboot and hits one it could try smash 20 psi in? if you follow.
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1 hour ago, Puffwagon said:
Edit: Ford wouldn't have changed it for no reason lol
Agreed.
Was on r31 wen was na, then turbo. So both
But ive used em on my ba na shitcar n a mates barra au ute.
Just tell yourself its lower iat and 10 hp.
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