[HOWTO: Run PCM standalone (eg engine swap). PATS disable and Speed Source Setup.]

On 4/30/2018 at 12:26 PM, Roland@pcmtec said:

Edit: This guide may not work for early model BA Falcons (eg 2004 and earlier) that run the 5.4L. A workaround for these models is to use a later model strategy from a manual 5.4L

 

In this case Roland, Does that rule out the use of BA 3V or 4V in 4spd auto form? Because V8/4spd is what I need to use.

[BA 3V PCM to run 393w.]

Yeah I found another mistake about Timing chains back when I was fitting a GT500 oil pump....not a good place to have a mistake!?

[BA 3V PCM to run 393w.]

2 minutes ago, misk said:

yeah all good, i'll just leave the box to be controlled by the au ecu. its just a 2nd daily so not after anything super.

with the crank sensor andf tps signals spliced it wont know any different

If nothing else. Its a good test. 

[BA 3V PCM to run 393w.]

And if your AU is auto. You have to change the solenoid wiring to Low side drive. Except the converter clutch which is High side. 

[BA 3V PCM to run 393w.]

2 minutes ago, misk said:

the boss strat would probly be a better starting point regardless, but you could also get away with just changing the CID config

Yes and from memory the 6cyl PCM’s dont have the extra cylinder drivers populated. 

[BA 3V PCM to run 393w.]

For the I6 and 3V you go to page 303-14-23. For 4V i just remembered it from when i had Super pursuit and of course no VCT makes it logical. 

[BA 3V PCM to run 393w.]

The I6 has VCT too. Therefore it has a 3+1 encoder so 4V is the easiest. 

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No i just checked the manual. 4V has single CMP and single tooth. And still a VR pickup like AU. So the 4V cal will make it easy. 

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Ok i just found the 3V uses two CMP’s. That are 4+1 teeth. So a switch to a 4V calibration would fix this? 

[BA 3V PCM to run 393w.]

Thanks Lads. 

So the cam sensor is not a TDC firing stroke marker? 

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Thanks Roland,

Yes I figured the tuning would be somewhat time consuming.

I think I'd maintain DBW anyway. also makes it is easy to have cruise control without the extra module/cable.

Ok I'll check out CANbarra and investigate that speed output.

What are the average flash speed times when programming?

[BA 3V PCM to run 393w.]

22 minutes ago, Roland@pcmtec said:

Not really a straight forward question. Might be best off taking this one to a workshop who has done jobs like this before, otherwise you risk doing everything twice. Retuning the speed density to suit a completely different motor will take up quite a lot of the tuners time as well, so that will get expensive as most barra tuners don't have experience doing full speed density recalcs.

Ok thanks Roland but, As usual I'd be doing everything myself anyway including the cal. I have discussed the SD tuning of large cams in 4V 5.4's with a couple of tuners who don't have a problem with the calibration.

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Hello,

I'm investigating the use of a BA 3Valve 5.4 PCM for use on a 393w in an XH ute. I would modify the harness slightly to use on the 5.8 engine and use as many if not all BA sensors. I've already made an AU style 36-1 encoder wheel and AU style Cam sensor. I'm using a BTR 4spd and I believe it's just a matter of changing the drive side of the shift solenoids via wiring harness mods to use a BA PCM to control? I can adapt a BA style throttle body and pedal assembly(is it possible to turn DBW off or is this too much of a code change to be possible?). Can the BA PCM spit out serial data to the original cluster or has that been deleted so they use CAN? I can also flash PATS out of the PCM before requiring any tuning software.

Is this a bad idea? Should I just stick with AU EECV and run a 1/4horse in realtime?

Regards,

Pete.