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On 10/21/2022 at 1:32 PM, Bill said:
Based on the strategy / teartag you've provided, I'd guess it's a na APS-231 pcm so won't control boost. Unfortunately, I regularly see na+t pcm's advertised as turbo pcms & usually make a comment & suggest the add be edited so as not to deceive buyers.
If you want to have FG factory boost control, which in my opinion is the best option, you'll need to source an APS-234 pcm.
Others have mentioned Brett at Custom Machine Works. If you're lucky, he may have a FG turbo pcm he can provide & advise what the matching tcm strategy is so you can reprogram the na tcm to match.
There's no listing against HAEE3A4 / A0AE for the TCM strategy but ZF03987 and auF1692 match. You might be lucky enough for it to drive without having a TCM mismatch but there's still more work to be done for it to run as a na+t. Again, another reason to source an APS-234 pcm & sell it as a na pcm
I am again wondering whether configuring what the PCM outputs on 0x623, 0x640 & 0x650 CAN ids is enough to 'trick" a TCM or ABS module into functioning with a different strategy/config. But I have not a lot of experience with the automatics.
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"LandBarra". That is genius.
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50 minutes ago, Roland@pcmtec said:
Anymore information on what the "Safety software" is? There are a lot of failsafes in the ABS module that you wouldn't want to disable. Make sure you test it somewhere safe.
at this stage unsure, its something that may be better tested with modules on a bench and a simulator rather than in a vehicle.
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On 10/3/2022 at 9:37 PM, 05xtsleeper said:
here are the datalogs. i did what you said i made a new using using this guide
it doesnt do it when the car starts i have to tap the pedel then it will gs but it goes back to smooth idle if i tap the pedal it will gs again
GS TRY 2.teclog 59.3 kB · 1 download GS TRY 1Log.teclog 43.52 kB · 1 download
is this a 5.4 or 5.0?
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On 9/12/2022 at 1:56 PM, Roland@pcmtec said:
I'm sure the ABS module can be read/written using the standard UDS protocols which are publicly available. It would not be rocket science to look for the MSG IDs, trace these back and find the wheel slip % and start modifying things. The code may not even be checksummed.
@jakka351 why don't you give it a crack?
On 9/12/2022 at 10:44 AM, Whiteford said:Seeking a non-invasive solution
There is a diagnostic routine that can disable the safety software - it may be possible to actually do this with minimal effort, just need to test it in practice. Test it in the red herring mobile.
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Has anyone fiddled with this flag? I set to 0 today, yet to log any data and see what it does.
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21 hours ago, Roland@pcmtec said:
Not exactly cheap. Can buy an aftermarket PCM for the price of a Bosch Motorsport configurable ABS module. They are designed for 300k track cars.
Mate I have a 5.4, it is a 300k track car. Almost.
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4 hours ago, 2X044 said:
I've been doing some reading and making sure the next PCB can support this requirement. I found this information regarding the EOT sensor:
Unless we can change the behaviour of the PCM on receiving an "out of range" or "abnormal" reading, the EOT will be ignored and the desired outcome of protecting the engine will not be achieved. Am I reading this correctly?
It is just saying if the sensor output seems unlikely to be true the PCMs failure strategy is to ignore the sensor and replace that value with that of the cylinder head temp sensor value - keeping the engine runnning pretty much as it was before the failure - so trying to fuzz this signal to the pcm wont work - as it will just ignore it. You probably want to cause a condition where the pcm sees 140-160 degrees celcius at the CHT - as it will start shutting down cylinders and dumping fuel in to try cool it down. Roland has mentioned it in these forums before i'm sure, all the parameters are in the software, you can set the failsafe point temps as they rise and fall.
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CCA Development Environment (bosch-motorsport.com)
"We provide the option to run software code on our ECUs that has been developed by the customer. This code is run in the customer code area (CCA) and is protected against access of anyone else. Within ECUs and VCUs, this feature can be run in parallel to all further functionality.
We deliver it with a full environment for Matlab/Simulink, a compiled Bosch model as library and a package of Matlab/Simulink interfaces to all I/Os."
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12 hours ago, Whiteford said:
Seeking a non-invasive solution
ABS M5 Kit | Bosch Motorsport (bosch-motorsport.com) ask these guys
Do you have an old ABS module Anthony?
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On 9/9/2022 at 4:58 AM, 2X044 said:
I can think of two (maybe three) ways of doing this, not sure which would be best but all would be "invasive" to the wiring of the car and not a 20 min job. The challenge is that with the ABS controller connected it will be publishing the wheel speed data on the CAN bus. You either need to trick it to broadcast the "normal" info or disconnect it and then pretend to be it (with potential for all sorts of issues).
@WhitefordIf this is just the rear tyres - you could wire up a switch that causes an open circuit in both Rear Wheel Speed Sensors -> ABS module wiring -> CAN Data now broadcast from the ABS for the rear wheels becomes 0xFF(invalid) and an ABS fault is triggered, you lose ABS, TCS and DSC and the cluster doesnt shut up, but you are not in LIMP mode and can race car all day, hit the switch and back to normal. Yes / No ?
Take it a step further and open up the ABS module, get into the firmware and write some software that can edit all the thousands of parameters that are probably in there. Then you can "tune" the antilock braking system.
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19 hours ago, hjtrbo said:
Hahaha, it gets like that sometimes! I've been there in the past buying up bulk.
For inside the cabin your box will be okie dokie. But it is nice to splash out a little more and go for the OEM look on certain projects once in a while.
I've got a small milling machine with a DRO that should get the job done. Doesn't give a water jet finish but good enough with a bit of hand finishing.
Pop in inside a Bluetooth Phone Module casing. moy bueno
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On 8/30/2022 at 6:41 AM, Roland@pcmtec said:
Is the intake and exhaust wired back to front?
Try locking the cams in software and see if they do what you tell them to.
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Could be this. As those DTC from your scan tool reference the following:
1381 P1381 Camshaft Position Timing Over Advanced (Bank 1) 1383 P1383 Camshaft Position Timing Over Retarded (Bank 1) But they do not error for the following:
1380 P1380 Camshaft Position Actuator Circuit (Bank 1) 1382 P1382 Camshaft Position Timing Solenoid #1 Circuit 1384 P1384 Variable Valve Timing Solenoid A Circuit -
Wiring.
4.5V before issue and 12V after issue happens (operating temp) Is a this a signal wire into the PCM from the Cam Angle Sensors? if so I don't think a signal wire is meant to be 12V for an ecu. I would check every wire on the PCM plug for shorts to a 12v power source. What gets 12V at operating temp? Cooling fans do, might be something to check.
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May be of use to note that the data provided by manufacturers for their injectors is obtained using calibration fluid - which is of a different viscosity to fuel, so the data from the manufacturers may not be necesssarily the best data to use as it was obtained with a fluid with much different properties than fuel.
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3 hours ago, abs351 said:
Lol, its public knowledge now and always was. 🙂
FG Mk2 clusters yes, MK1 i don't believe so
mk1 bootsplashes available now actually. Get in contact with my alter ego
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https://github.com/jakka351/fg-falcon start digging
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55 minutes ago, Bill said:
Yeah, I realised the main conversation was about the 3v engine, not the 4V engine. I mentioned the Boss 5.4 because they use the same PCM hardware. All BA & SX that have ABS use a Bosch 5.3 system, so there's some similarity. If it's ABS only & not ABS/TCS over CAN it's usually not a major problem but ABS/TCS over CAN can be a problem. Still may have issues with a mismatch though. I agree, using the 5.4 ABS module on the Territory would solve the mismatch issue if there was one but may not work well on a 2t vehicle.
Anyone want to donate a RWD Territory, 5.4 engine, gearbox, wiring loom & PCM etc? I need another conversion challenge 🤣 have you got some spare time Jakka? I might need a handI don't mind snapping a few bolts here and there. Is anyone willing to donate a SOHC 5.4 Crate motor from the states? I think theyre about $30,000 and come with 800 horsepower ready made.
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I am thinking that the 5.4 PCM is not going to work at all with the Terry ABS module. If it was a 5.4 PCM and ABS, no dramas.
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The 5.4 220 KW engine OP is talking about is different to the later 5.4s I was talking about - OP's engine is a 3V 5.4, not an XR8 or GT Boss 5.4 4V engine so that may need to be taken in to consideration as well
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On 7/18/2022 at 6:38 PM, hjtrbo said:
I've got something that might help. Its tacky and nasty. Do you own a DLP and a decent USB to serial adaptor? Also need a trial version of Virtual Serial Port Driver.
get com0com, unrestricted virtual serial ports
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Nah, 5.4 V8 PCMs are only going to work with......5.4 Litre V8s
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Nah, 5.4 V8 PCMs are only going to work with......5.4 Litre V8s
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On 9/5/2021 at 1:52 PM, TheReaper said:
Effectively I'm trying to work out if its possible to remove the PCM and still have the ACM/ICC work without whinging about the security code by emulating the PATS information or some other method.
Hey this is a bit of misinformation - The ICC will work fine regardless of PCM or PATS - when a PCM is changed out and the AUDIO CODE ERROR comes up on the ICC its cos the battery was likely disconnected during the PCM swap, you just have to do level 1 security access 0x27 on the ACM and it will clear it. No pats or pcm relation.
Territory Intermittent Coil Failure
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Just to be a nitpicker here - things can't intermittently fail. Failure is permanent, so if your issue is intermittent. it is not a failure. Ignition Coils playing up will causes misfires but shouldn't the transmission make a bang sound. Did that sound a bit like the engine revving up and then it going clunk as it changed gears?
If the coils have been replaced, possible that they were replaced with fake parts? These are rife on ebay on online stores.
Also if you have a suspected failed coil easiest way to test is to swap it to a different cylinder and you should see the problem follow the suspect coil. If the problem doesn't move with the part then your problem is suspect.