MemeMachine Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Hey everyone, I've done an Na+t conversion in my ba falcon, its got a greentop in it (stock atm). I'm currently tuning it myself through pcmtec, I've been slowly refining the tune and getting it good but a little stuck in this one area. It appears that it will misfire underload, to be more specific, this happens generally at 3000rpm when the throttle position is >400, though it can happen really at any time if I step on it hard enough. Since tuning my btr, this issue seems to disapppear after about 15 minutes of driving, though sometimes the issue comes back after a while. Some leaning out of the fuel has improved this issue, though I'm still having this issue at 12ish afr. Please let me know if theres more information I can provide. Apologies for the poor explanation. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerTurbo Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 whats boost level does it reach when you plant it through he midrange, its not overboosting is it? how new are you coilpacks and whats plug gap are you running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemeMachine Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 No, not overboosting. Happens in vacuum most the time. Coils and plugs are brand new. Gap is 0.7 (I've tried changing it around and it seems to make no difference). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abs351 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 I second to beer turbo's comments. Start with plug gap first .6-.7 gap or replace plugs and then coil packs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abs351 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Go back to stock values and then test. Data log the car to see its error . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemeMachine Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 minute ago, abs351 said: Data log the car to see its error . The odd thing is, datalogger doesn't really show anything out of the ordinary? Like it doesn't look to be pulling out excessive timing or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerTurbo Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 minute ago, MemeMachine said: The odd thing is, datalogger doesn't really show anything out of the ordinary? Like it doesn't look to be pulling out excessive timing or anything. what's the torque source doing when it happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemeMachine Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 Just now, BeerTurbo said: what's the torque source doing when it happens? Honestly not sure what that really even is. What should I look for? I'm still very much learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerTurbo Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 tourque souce in the log, when its at 1 the pcm is thinking everything is great and will be trying to do whatever you ask it to. if its lower than than something is requesting the car to pull tourque. some requests can be cylinder cut and sound like a missfire. just make sure its not that also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemeMachine Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 minute ago, BeerTurbo said: tourque souce in the log, when its at 1 the pcm is thinking everything is great and will be trying to do whatever you ask it to. if its lower than than something is requesting the car to pull tourque. some requests can be cylinder cut and sound like a missfire. just make sure its not that also. That sounds like it could be the source of my problem. Tuning the trans changed everything, which i thought was odd. I'll look into it cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemeMachine Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 So, update. It all seems fine, I'm thinking it could be related to my timing, though when it happens the pcm doesnt seem to be pulling out much/any timing? It's so odd this issue, in the same drive it can be going like shit as soon as i hit 300ish on the TPS and then 5 minutes later its going well and then after another 10 minutes its back doing what it was (with no obvious causes in the datalog). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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