Turboidiot Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Hi, I currently have a turbo territory that has had the ZF fail as a result of the "ZF milkshake". I have sourced an AWD Territory NA ZF & wondering if i can flash it or make it work with the original car ecu/pcm? (I assuming here that the milkshaked tcm/megatrocnis unit will be stuffed) So is it possible? & whats the recommended process to perform this software update for the replacement ZF to work? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Not a trivial process. There are many different combinations. We couldn't tell you what to do. Also afaik the turbo and na zf are not the same mechanically, I believe the torque converter is different and they have less clutch packs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turboidiot Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 Thanks Roland & Whiteford... I may now have to reconsider my options as i thought the NA & turbo box was the same in the AWD models. Having trouble finding an awd turbo box. Cheers... Will keep you posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 It will probably fit up and go in, but the calibration will be different and you'll possible destroy it quite quickly with the extra torque. I have heard of people doing it in sedans, no idea how long it will last or how successful they were though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl@pcmtec Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 The difference in the hardware may only be the turbo might have different clutch packs, the gearbox is the same ZF 26HP as far as I can determine. The calibration software can be changed with PCMTec but if it is from a 4WD Territory then it should just go in without changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just confirmed from a builder that the torque converter is physically smaller (less oil volume) and has a smaller lockup plate. This means it oveheats quicker and the lockup will break under heavy torque. The box itself just has less clutch packs everywhere. The builder said they put a turbo converter in one and it lasted about a year with 350rwkw before it let go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turboidiot Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 ok, so if I use a spare turbo converter I have and upgrade the clutch packs in the NA box it should be as good if not better than a turbo box? Changing the calibrations to suit is easy with #pcmtech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 That is what most built boxes are, upgraded lockup plate and more clutch packs. It isn't as simple as just putting more plates in though as the piston lengths are different (as they run less plates from factory) etc. There are also other changes made eg input shaft etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutorque Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I to have had a fg turbo milk shake . I've fitted another turbo zf but it has different software. Is there any way to flash the correct software to the tcm to match the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl@pcmtec Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 If the new turbo ZF fis from the same type of car (FG) then anyone with PCMTec Workshop Software can reset it back to the correct calibration. If the ZF is changed to a BF Mechatronics you have two options: Contact Bullet Performance Racing and get them to reflash the Operating system in the TCM and reset the calibration Contact a PCMTec Workshop and we can guide them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutorque Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, Darryl@pcmtec said: If the new turbo ZF fis from the same type of car (FG) then anyone with PCMTec Workshop Software can reset it back to the correct calibration. If the ZF is changed to a BF Mechatronics you have two options: Contact WhiteFord Tech and get them to reflash the Operating system in the TCM and reset the calibration Contact a PCMTec Workshop and we can guide them. Fitting another fg box in another fg. But cant find how to load the zf file Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 You can use the create stock file wizard, same as returning a PCM to stock, just make sure you tick TCM only when you flash the file in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trutorque Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Got it guys cheers ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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