BeerTurbo
-
Posts
342 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
32
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Events
Posts posted by BeerTurbo
-
-
On 12/2/2022 at 1:31 PM, Puffwagon said:
Also it's not just for the hot days, when you start cranking up the boost you will see a significant intake temp rise just over the course of a single 4th gear pull, unless you have a massive intercooler.
For the sake of adding an anecdote here, my 1000hp rated plazmaman cooler will go from 30C to 70C going flat out from 1st gear to the end of 4th gear and on the dyno have seen it remove 6 degrees of timing when heat soaked.
still way way way better than the stock top mount. they would start at 40 sometimes and be over 100 by the time the car changed into 3rd.
-
On 12/1/2022 at 12:06 PM, Jake said:
I’m working with an FG mk2 xr6 NA auto, the customer has swapped in a turbo zf trans, gas motor and fitted a turbo.
1st issue - throttle body actuator dtc and limp mode on gear kickdown. Other than that seems to work fine.
2nd - we fitted a turbo pcm but cannot perform pats reset. Not supported on oil
anyone completed a mk2 Fg pcm swap or na to turbo conversion shine any lights?
thanks.
jake.I just did a pats reset using Forscan for a Bfmk2. Just needed two keys.
-
I had to lower btr shift points with a na+exhaust+3.7 gears it would just tag limiter in the shifts. Needed to be lowerd by 100 rpm or so. But the btr take like 700 rpm to actually do a shift....at least the zf is much quicker hahahaha
-
Just now, JMSMotorsport said:
So set Fuel Cut limit auF0133 to 6100 and Move the RPM Limit auF0144 to 6250? I will also try using that process as that makes sense, I guess they make the RPM so much quicker needs extra time to get that shift done.
Thats what i did, im not saying its right. But it worked.
-
1 minute ago, JMSMotorsport said:
Am I right in thinking if it's hitting engine limiting before the change happens, I just need to bring the shift on earlier? Mainly the 1-2 and 3-4 if i use it in Manual it shifts fine under WOT.
The Log Has Multiple Pulls - From Dead Stop to Rolling and a Manual Pull
What i did with mine was edit the map 27 i think it was for manual mode..then put in a number..test and see if it hits limiter...then use that number as the max number.
I did find the terry with more Power needed some lower number in shift.
What worked better was changing limiter type. I found stock limiter would confise it and make it hold gear more. Since std is a throttle cut.
I changed to fuel cut only and left it at 6100 or so and it seemed fine
-
1
-
-
8 hours ago, will15 said:
Just set all this stuff to 0 and still doing it.
i dont think that's the right way to disable it. that's just telling it to use mode 0, which might actually still include TQ reduction.
AUF0264 AND AUF0265 have been where i have had the most success disabling throttle movement on TQ retard.
you can see the transmission is requesting tq retard. so you can disable the throttle part using those two scalars.
it may still then default to pull spark and or another event such as cylinder cut depending how your other tq events are setup.
you need to do as puffy suggesting and find out where in the calibration the limit is and change it.
for fun check auf3342. ,max throttle angle
-
On 11/10/2022 at 10:43 PM, hjtrbo said:
E clutch is high. How did you go with the DTCs? Anything come back?
is that a solenoids issue or a clutch packs issue
-
On 11/10/2022 at 10:43 PM, hjtrbo said:
E clutch is high. How did you go with the DTCs? Anything come back?
ive only really put about 150 km on it since i cleared it.
i know the other day on the freeway it was doing the 4/5/6th gear hold on me (just switch from D to S back to D and it works it life out)
no DTC's at the servo on the way home tonight, so I gave it a hurting the rest of the way home and nothing else came up.
-
On 11/3/2022 at 6:25 AM, hjtrbo said:
Scan again for a few days to see what comes back. If that u0100 comes back start off by checking the connector.
What are your adapt values showing with the logger?
are any of these usefull?
-
2 hours ago, hjtrbo said:
Not fun.
Any fault codes?
Adapt values?
Cold flash failure is a massive red flag. Certainly nothing to lose by swapping the mech unit. How long had it been since the solenoid and seals were changed?
checked codes before the work drive this morning
TCM - u0100-ff - lost comunication with the PCM
ABS - U2501-20
i ceared them then on the drive did a few spirited hits and nothing came back - but it was still not shifting into 4-5-6 on high load. not going into 4th may be new
-
Howdy
the zf in the terry has started playing up recently. it seems to forget to shift up.
i attempted a cold read the other day and pcmtec had a corruption error, but when it was warm the config was read.
i returned it mostly to stock and toped up the fluid level as it was a small amount low.
it seems to be fine, but as per most cases under load it will forget to shift into 5th. babying it it will go into 5/6th fine.
strangely enough if you humming along and it decides to stay in 4th, it will seemingly stay there forever... unless you change shift mode or hit cruse control - then it wakes up and shifts.
if there an easy way to data log the solenoids and if they need replacement? i have planned to do the seals and change fluid in the near future. but wandered if there was an easy in car way to check them.
also is the cold read corruption anything to worry about, i have a spare mechatronic i can use if that's an issue.
cheers
-
Hey Mate
i think ive posted this information on here before, but ill do it again in case. I have a barra r31 bf mk na motor/na zf trans combo with a china gt45.. this has a can barra to emulate speed... everything works fairly well and I skid it on the regular.
a couple of months ago i had this issue where as it would get near onto full boost the trans would just go into limp mode. This was not all the time, but it was pretty common. The car actually ran fine and never misfired.
I went through checking the canbarra / wiring, even tested the coils. loweing the boost, change plugs - all the normal crap.
One time it did it i noticed the speed went away. so i contacted nigel from canbarra to see if i could test the unit.
he said he saw a couple of cars b series/zfs where this would happen due to RMI from the coils killing the canbus comms, puting trans in limp mode.
I thought to myself if its RF ill shield the ZF wiring and separate it - i did an ok job at that - but it was still the same issue.
I changed the coils to brand new genuine (even tho they olds ones tested restance the same as the new ones) but the issue went away instantly.
Nigel also mentioned the he had not heard of this issue on the Fg combos, so he suspected they did something different in the wiring.
-
Just now, murphsdiesel said:
so at a stretch if set desired boost to 0 in all tables that apply theoretically it would power at all times if it was able to be controlled thru my pcm
it will either be 0 or 1 for full. i suspect 1.
dont forget to change the throttle position to boost to cause thats afect the desire wg pressure table
-
5 minutes ago, murphsdiesel said:
ok so correct me if im wrong but basically if i have no voltage at my wastegate/boost control solenoid its not using it and then that confirms i dont have the 234 pcm
Im not sure. You might need to make the entire field 0 or 1 then test voltage output
-
4 minutes ago, murphsdiesel said:
i have pcmtec professional so i can play around in there and learn what i can and cant do to it.
i had the wiring loom all done professionally, it came back basically plug and play into my cruiser, all the gauges work, can barra works it shows what gear im in on the lcd screen weather that actually means anything. pats has been disabled along with a few others that dont seem to be needed, the engine starts and runs quiet well.
i was doing some digging in the pcm and i found it has the scalers for tubo wastegate solenoid and turbo logic also boost etc, if it was a non turbo ecm would i be seeing them in pcmtec?
Yes. it will have the logic/software for turbo. just might no use them. things like the boost controller can be ignored as it does not have the hardware to control it. but it may still reference the desired boost table, so it knows when to do overboost protection - things like that.
-
1 minute ago, Bill said:
Yep, where you've already got the external controller setup & it's working fine, then why bother. If you're starting from scratch & have to buy a na pcm & external controller then it pays to weigh up both options & goals.
there is an amount im ready to spend on a turbo pcm, but its just not what ive found them for.
being na+t it would be nice to use the functions of the boost control to ramp in after peak torque.
we will see, still a few other things to buy before i absolutely need the pcm. so maybe one will popup locally in that time.
-
1 hour ago, Bill said:
APS-234 is the best option so you have factory boost control.
If you're using the APS-231 & turbo ZF6, starting with a turbo pcm/tcm strategy & setting it up with external boost control would be the less desirable method but an option that should also workyeah its just one of those things. Use a $50 PCM or a $550 + PCM with awesome boost control.
I have a factory turbo territory and the boost control is nice, but i also run two na+t cars with more manual boost controls and they function just fine. To the point where i actually have a ba turbo 6 speed ecu to replace the one in the drift ute, for nearly 2 years but haven't bothered because it works just fine as is.
-
On 10/10/2022 at 8:43 AM, JMSMotorsport said:
Unfortunately already bought the 3 bar tMAP from IMS. I guess they should let me return it and swap for the 4 bar boost sensor. Is the factory boost sensor 2bar? Would that mean I could use the logic to just switch to the factory boost sensor if only running 22psi
stock turbo MAP is 2 bar, but it will read up to 250kpa apparently. something like 22psi. But you would want to look at replacing it if you were going near that value.
-
15 hours ago, hjtrbo said:
Nothing to worry about with a PCM TCM mismatch, that is easy fixed without even trying. I've found so long as PCM is APS-234 and TCM OSID is the same (2008-2014 or there abouts) I've found any cal can be written to the TCM and all is required is a calibration level scalar change on the PCM side.
I have bought a ft turbo zf auto, mated to a fg na+t motor for my patrol. I havent even got around to getting wiring or a pcm sorted. do you think ill need a APS 234 or will a 231 work?
-
its been a hot miniute, but if you fire up forscan and select the abs module for data log you can real time view all the abs sensors.
if you driving straight i would suspect they should all be dead close, maybe look there.
-
whats is auF0359, fuel test? and why do you have it at 179/ stock 50.
your fuel base cold needs to be richer, you have a few lean spots....its leaner than stock.
it should not be affecting ur last log. but i would change it. the last two load lines should really match your desired fuel table. you have 0.88 at 1 load, it should be around 0.81. the second last table 0.6 load should be around .88-.9
-
Puffy is right.
Check ur tune. Some configs have silly desired charge rates. Just set everything to 14.0 v.
But no reason ur under 13v with car on.
Check ur electrics
-
1
-
-
Just now, MemeMachine said:
I could be wrong but given that I'm running off gate pressure with an Na+t it won't be effected by this?
Unfortunately I've been away for the last two weeks but should be back next week so will do a good data logging session then.
it does not just control the boost controller hysterics, it controls the boost cut and and tq retard if you go (something like 2.8psi above)
so, add in some numbers.
-
1
-
-
7 hours ago, overlap said:
Hi beerturbo, I have a built trans (ZF) ive also modified the stator for a looser convertor , laggyish turbo too (g35/1050) , i just find it drives around the street so much smoother without the tcc.. However im all about it in 5&6th cruising.
Cheers
Ta.
I have a na+t, in a r31 .. so its still got na tc and i skid it, so i was worried about heat.
Given the cars light with 3.89 diff the barra makes enough power without the tcc slipping.
The other day i put the manshift tcc map into all of the variables and tbh it seems fine, thus far.
Flame tune
in Engine Tuning (AUS)
Posted
until you disable DFCO your going to have trouble.
I could get small flames with DFCO disabled, negative decel timing and fuel map verry rich in all cells you were trying to blow a flame in.
even then it would only do it when the car was verry hot.
after i added water meth injection it would just blow a constant flame.