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14 minutes ago, Smileymike said:
The tear tab photo above is not mine. This is a snap shot from the pcmtec software scan
The A5ME in your screenshot is the Tear Tag code, along with VIN which shows as XR series, which in BF is a 260.
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2 hours ago, Smileymike said:
Is the screenshot a read with the original 260 PCM & TCM?
I thought the Tear Tag A5ME was a XR8 one & a check in Etis shows the VIN is for a XR8.
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7 hours ago, ToughDiesels said:
Rightio
ive had time to have another look at this and discovered there are actually no pins in the ECU for the C plug .
Im assuming this may have something to do with the lack of auto functions ?
Any ideas
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46 minutes ago, Smileymike said:
Hi Roland@pcmteclooking for some help, ive got a Retro muscle car that ive fitted a Boss 260 with ZF trans, then swapped out for a Boss 290 and Computer to suit. Unfortunately wasn't aware of the TCM not matching and now surprise surprise they dont talk to each other. as you can imagine no tear tab information only Vin Tag info for the computer.
Any ideas how i can resolve this issue?
Are both the 260 & 290 PCM’s from a BF or is the 290 PCM from a FG?
If they’re both BF, post the strategy for more help.
If the TCM is BF and PCM is FG, there are only a few people who can reprogram the TCM for you.
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5 hours ago, Hipcrostino said:
I have a bit of a mystery PCM. It's supposed to be a Falcon BF Turbo PCM with a ZF 6 speed. This PCM has had some kind of tune put on it apparently, but I just want the hardware with the intention of reverting to a stock image prior to any tuning.
All the stickers on the pcm are missing. There is a hand written note saying its a ABU-214, which has been crossed out. It is a Spanish Oak PCM. It has a HACH4A5 stratagy on it, and reports as a Terrritory PCM in Forscan. Forscan says its a "Hardware type: ASU-114 / ASU-134 / ASU-154 / ASU-174", but the serial number starts with AASV-112.
Is there anyway of knowing what it really is?
Searching the stratagy lists show that ASV-112 pcm's do not have turbo logic, so perhaps its an NA PCM originally?
Terrirory's have a slightly differnent pinout so I don't think it will run a falcon properly. Would a falcon tune change the I/O on the pcm, or is that a hardware only thing?
The obvious solution here is to ditch this PCM and get one with some known history, but money on this project is tight atm so if I can use what I have I would prefer it.
Paul.
Hi Paul, HACH4A5 is a territory turbo strategy & usually uses the same ASU-224 hardware as the later BF turbo. The problem you're going to have & are currently facing is when a different strategy is flashed onto incorrect hardware, it can show up as the hardware type that matches the current strategy.
FORScan will often show PCM hardware as variants which appear to be earlier numbers than we are used to on Falcons eg the ASV-114 & ASV-134. Maybe there's a link they've found when reverse engineering to create FORScan.
I haven't seen any ASV-112 pcms or any other Ford PCM's with a serial # starting with AASV-112 so this may be a coincidence. The serial numbers are usually very random in appearance. Have a look at the serial numbers on a few PCM's.
Powering up the PCM & testing the IO's may be the only way to confirm if it's really Turbo or na PCM.
As far as wiring goes, I thought I'd seen a post in one of the Ford forums saying that BF & the SY territory wiring was the same but, I haven't compared them. -
6 hours ago, ToughDiesels said:
Can anybody please tell me if PCM can recode a new trans into a BA falcon with a BTR .
We have fitted a new gearbox and it’s stuck in one gear with solenoid fault codes
A replacement BTR doesn't need to be coded.
As long as the BTR is from a BA-FG, your speed source is correct ie if the original box used a speed transducer, the replacement must use one too & there's no issues with wiring or PCM, they are install & drive. Earlier pre BA BTR's, the internal wiring is reverse polarity.
Did you have exactly the same issue & fault codes before replacing the gearbox?
It helps if you include fault codes when asking for help with diagnosing a problem eg P0753, P0758, P0763 etc.
Check wiring & solenoids. It's not uncommon for broken wiring in BA's in particular at the C20 connector, occasionally near the ABS module, PCM & trans connectors.
Keep in mind that BA PCM's are failing at a fair rate now & it's not uncommon for them to put the BTR into limp mode & display fault codes for all solenoids.
Example broken wires at C20 connector.
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11 hours ago, taylorsamuel790@gmail.com said:
Yeah cool and I only have the professional version of software is it possible to do with that?
You'd need to upgrade to the Falcon One Car Workshop version
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53 minutes ago, taylorsamuel790@gmail.com said:
Was just wondering how to go about running flex fuel/e85 with standard pcm?
Start by reading the guide below. After reading the guide, you can search 2 separate terms for more info "Flex fuel" & "E85". Searching these individually will lead you to a heap more info
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58 minutes ago, Zhuojian@pcmtec said:
Hi Bill, what exactly happened when you logged in via the Edge browser? Could you please also share your Edge browser setting so we could investigate for you?
Hi Zhuojian, when I clicked on "Login" in either the top right corner or in the lower section, it would show a white banner at the top with no information.
I've just done some testing & after clearing history, cache etc. I could go to the PCMTEC website, select Contact Us & login to support successfully.
Further testing, if I am first logged into the Forums & then try to login to the website & then into support, it would fail again. I decided to take a screen recording of the white banner that didn't provide any info & as I was moving my fingers across the mousepad, I must have activated the select all, on the page because it highlighted text on the page & also showed some useful text in the white banner at the top of the screen.....login didn't originate from whitelisted domain.
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13 minutes ago, Xr6t3984 said:
well that was a waste of 2 credits hahaha, can i just copy over the main files from HAAS4Y4 strategy to my stock n/a tune to get it running decently for now?
There's a lot of differences between a manual & auto strategy. Copying the wrong bits will just make things harder in the end & unless you have workshop, you won't be seeing all the differences. How you go about it all will also depend on whether you're using the original NA PCM & an external boost controller or a turbo PCM with stock boost control. If you're using the NA PCM, search "BA NA+T" or "external Boost control", it'll provide some reading material on what others have done for external boost control & any problems encountered.
Go to Home - PCMTec. Support & login to create a support ticket explaining you've chosen an incompatible manual strategy & need to change to an auto strategy.
The PCMTEC will assess whether or not you may be eligible for a refund of credits to licence the correct strategy & unlicencing of the incorrect one.
Roland has mentioned it's not official policy to do it but will be looked at on a case by case basis.
NOTE: If you're having problems logging into the support website, try a different web browser as it's a new support portal & there may be glitches. I just tried to login using Edge browser & it failed but worked using firefox & should also work using chrome. The failure using edge could be due to my settings or extensions being used & may work for you. @PCMTEC-
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1 hour ago, Xr6t3984 said:
i should add that the ute is n/a ute but i have installed a factory turbo engine out of a 2003 ba ute i will add the factory tune of the n/a ute
You'd be better off using HAANFHZ as a starting point. It's a BA turbo BTR strategy
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2 hours ago, Xr6t3984 said:
i have flashed a tune into my ba xr6 ute and the btr seems to be stuck in 3rd, wont let me change gears with sports shift it does not come up on the dash, not too sure what has gone wrong,i have attached the file im working with.
it works fine when i flash the stock tune filr back in
Your problem is HAAS4Y4 is a 6 speed manual strategy. You need an auto strategy or spend time making adjustments to make it work.
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40 minutes ago, BeerTurbo said:
Cheers for the update. Some good info.
Yeah i cant be bothered pining the acc pedal to match bf ecu tho haha.
If it's going to be registered & get engineering compliance, you'll need to add wiring for the O2 sensor on the BA as it was in the body loom.
On the BF, the O2 wiring is part of the engine loom. Depending on what the car is going to be used for, you may have some wiring mods to do but either option will work. -
BF PCM's & engine looms are usually pretty cheap if the local wreckers have a few & would be my preferred option if available. A faster, more reliable PCM & the strategies all have full independent VCT cam control.
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11 hours ago, BeerTurbo said:
im about to do this for a mates conversion (au bf gassy na petrol converted ba loom with au t5)
i have three ecus to choose from, will it matter whitch one
ABU-242 A3AD, ABU-242 A3AA and ABU-212 32AL.
is there a preference for the PCM to use, or just use any 242 as the way i understand it thats a later hardware spec? (is it faster?)
If you're going to use a BA PCM, the ABU-242 is the later hardware. It replaced the ABU-212 part way through 2003. AFAIK, the 242 is no faster than the 212.
"auF13397" "Enables Electronic Crash Sensor's control of the fuel pump" was added for the ABU-242. It's likely that Ford changed the hardware number to ABU-242 due to this change.
A3AA, A3AB, A3AC, A3AD, A3AE, A3AF is the sequence. There's a change in OSID between some of these strategies.
NOTE: Some lazy Ford workshops didn't always replace the PCM sticker when they carried out PCM updates so what's on the sticker may not be correct. I have an ABU-242 from a 2003 BA here that is labelled A3AA but it has the latest update ie A3AF HAANGF5 -
39 minutes ago, Ghedina said:
Hi Bill,
Thanks for your reply.
I was thinking of trying that myself.
Do you know what the #'s represent in the various A,B&C lines? Or Do u have a more detailed breakdown of the formula (Ax + By + C = 0)?
cheers,
Brett
Sorry Brett, I can't help with the formula. The fact the formula remains the same, it should operate the same at the higher time limits if the 1 minute times were applied for each above. My preference would be to retain the 2 minute time for high speed fans due to high ACPT & only alter 3 minutes & above if I were to make any changes. This would be consistent with the approach taken with BA & BF's.
I think Ford fitted a 530-560 CCA battery in FG but Super Charge have 630-650CCA that'll fit. I only ever fit batteries with the highest CCA rating possible in the space provided. It reduces the risk of having any starting issues when the fans have run on.
Also, change the alternator settings to target a charge rate of 13.8-14.2v. Having the higher CCA rated battery & alternator maintaining the battery at the higher charge rate, it'll extend the battery life & you may even find that changing the fan run on time may not be necessary. You could easily test this by making the alternator charge rate changes & battery replacement if necessary & check the battery cranking voltage after the fans have run on. -
13 hours ago, Ghedina said:
Hi Jakka,
I was wondering if you had any knowledge on how to shorten the time the "fans run on" for when the engine has been switched off.
I understand its reason for being there, but it doesnt do the battery any favors.
If possible, I would like to limit it to 1 min.Cheers,
BrettHi Brett, you could have a look at the scalars below & copy 1 minute values to 2,3,4&5min. It's not something I've done but the formula is the same for each scalar & looks like it should do what you want.
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Good to hear the strategy swap went well. When you start datalogging MTX to sort cruise control, BA don't have 6th gear MTX parameters. You'll need to change 5th gear values
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9 hours ago, Puffwagon said:
There is also a switch that will force open loop.
@Plumbs if I remember correctly, if you search OLCL switch, you'll find it.-
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Within PCMTEC, use the Calibration Tools > Create Stock File/Calibration Merge function
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9 minutes ago, sd6 said:
Sorry for the late reply, i figured i would open up pcmtec and actually read the file on the car and have a bit of a play with the software to get my head around it. So the stock strategy on the pcm is currently HAANFH4/32HK, PCM tear tag ABU-214. After looking at the software it seems this is as simple as importing a suitable manual tune and writing the flash to the vehicle as its stock for stock.
Regarding the f6 strategy HAAT0V6 / A3VA. It appears i need to disable auF12646 to stop the oil light being permanently on. As far as I'm aware f6 runs higher boost then the xr6 and has some changes to allow 270kw vs 240kw for the xr6t. This car actually has the f6 airbox and intercooler but is there anything else i should be worrying about or should i look for a stock mk1 ba xr6t 5 speed manual tune and adjust accordingly for the cruise control? I'm not a tuner i just want to get the car working properly in its stock form as a manual and then i will hand it over to a competent tuner in the future when i modify it.
Also as i have the professional version of pcmtec i believe i don't get access to the database of factory tunes? if so this is no issue i can get them elsewhere.
If you've already licenced HAANFH4, you could change to manual strategy HAANFG4, datalog & adjust the MTX ratios. You wouldn't need to licence again as it's already using the same OSID.
As far as I'm aware, the intercooler, airbox & 3R23 rods were the only differences, so if you want to take advantage of the F6 strategy, you could do it now, change auF12646 & sort MTX ratios. The F6 strategy is my preferred strategy. Your other option would be get the tuner to change to the F6 strategy before tuning if you wanted to.-
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16 hours ago, sd6 said:
From what i can gather i should be able to use a mk1 ba xr6t manaul sedan strategy with some adjustments to get the cruise control working with the 6 speed? I haven't really done any digging into this yet, just trying to get an idea of what i am in for before i get the tools out.
You'll need to log the MTX pids to adjust the gear ratios, min & max to get the cruise control working correctly.
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16 hours ago, sd6 said:
Hey guys, very new to pcmtec here, looking for a little advice. I'm about to do a tr6060 manual conversion in a couple of days. The car is a 2003 ba xr6t sedan with 4 speed auto and 3.46 lsd. What's the best way to go about getting the auto pcm working properly with all of this? Everything is completely stock tune wise.
I'd start by flashing in a turbo manual strategy. This saves all the headaches of getting all the manual parameters right.
If you use latest F6 calibration HAAT3VC, you can take advantage of fully independent cam timing. F6 was the only BA strategy to offer this.
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32 minutes ago, Puffwagon said:
I have a modified factory converter to suit the 6r80 input shaft and has a much higher stall speed than stock. Because of this and also the amount of power the engine makes I run the converter fully unlocked as much as the tune will allow. I don't want to smoke the converter clutch either.
With that in mind I remember that the stock TC settings have the converter lock up a lot of the time and I think this might have some effect on the relearn. It might be worth running the stock TC settings for the relearn process, then swap to tuned TC settings afterwards.
It would be interesting to see what differences it makes doing a relearn with stock settings & then with tuned settings. The higher stall might learn poorly with stock settings & may learn better with the tuned settings. It might also be perfectly fine. It'll be great to hear how it all goes
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Your response makes no sense. No idea why you'd think any information provided would relate to BA or AU as I have clearly stated BF info??
B5EB & B5EC are definitely BF 290 Tear Tags but the PCMTEC strategy browser doesn't list TCM files, nor do they download.
B5ED is the next in the series & it does have a TCM file....if that helps. Use that along with the create stock file/calibration merge function and you'll have 290 PCM & TCM calibrations instead of the 260 you currently have.