MrSafe Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Hey guys, just wanted to know if anyone has successfully got the zf shift burble working in a bf turbo/territory turbo ? I have tried putting fg sprint torque settings in and having a play but the trans either cuts to hard on the shift and slams into gear or it goes back to a standard shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 It is missing the scalars to do so. You can make it do a hard cut like you've found but I don't believe it is possible to make it like an FG. You could try lowering the torque reduction value to see if half way will be drivable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl@pcmtec Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 The code to do the injector cut (gear fart/shift burble) is only in the FGs and it is not in the BF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSafe Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 No worries thanks fellas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerTurbo Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 @Roland@pcmtec given the pcm with use enleanment then fuel cut, instead of setting enleanment rich as has been suggested for safety, could you go right the other way and set it to something like 1.9 effectively causing an injector cut quicker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerTurbo Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 ok, so for trans shift if we set spark to a high number, say .9 and above and give it full authority over other cuts aka 1. set the enleanment to 1.75 and disabled throttle cut. car verry slowly revs down with no noises. not fast enough for the zf and no noises. set the enleanment to rich, my case .88, no throttle cuts, will make a hecken antilag style backfire on gearshift and once again not be fast enough to tq reduce. set enleanment to to super rich .75 just increases the backfire noises. so that was a fun experement. in short i dont think we can have it. haha. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda598 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Did you video it lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerTurbo Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/18/2020 at 11:36 AM, yoda598 said: Did you video it lol haha no. adds to much ducking around to the limited amount of testing time i get. I can tell you that the last lot of settings ive had in the car have been in there a couple of weeks and just the other day on a 2-3rd change it did a perfect fg style shift burble - but i haven't been able to recreate it since, nor was i data lodging at the time so i have no idea what it did. that was with spark cut at .8 and other cuts at .5 and enleanment at .78. i think he trick is getting the car doing a rich enleanment and then injector cuts, but with the b series there is no consistent way to get it in that sweet spot every time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda598 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, BeerTurbo said: haha no. adds to much ducking around to the limited amount of testing time i get. I can tell you that the last lot of settings ive had in the car have been in there a couple of weeks and just the other day on a 2-3rd change it did a perfect fg style shift burble - but i haven't been able to recreate it since, nor was i data lodging at the time so i have no idea what it did. that was with spark cut at .8 and other cuts at .5 and enleanment at .78. i think he trick is getting the car doing a rich enleanment and then injector cuts, but with the b series there is no consistent way to get it in that sweet spot every time. I'll do some testing in the new year. See what I can make work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerTurbo Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 28 minutes ago, yoda598 said: I'll do some testing in the new year. See what I can make work. the fgs goes straight to cylinder injector cut for zf, so with a b series you really want the car to request other tq reductions, then spark cut. so you can find the sweet spot for the burble with the other cuts - then use spark cut if it needs more. but i dont think this situation is reversable so if you disable spark cut to get the injector cut straight away, you will also likely induce etc cut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSafe Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Hey fellas has anyone had any luck making an Na fg burble on gear changes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Just had an idea. If you set up the permanent fuel cut on gear shift for the BF which is very rough at low revs/low throttle (eg you would never drive around town like this) as an extra tune you could enable this for the drag track etc as a separate tune you enable. You could also enable/set up a flex tune and wire up the TPS or boost sensor to the rear o2 sensor and interpolate the torque reduction based on throttle/boost level to make it drivable. A lot of stuffing around, but if you are DIY and bored it would work and probably quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerTurbo Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 3/1/2021 at 1:48 PM, Roland@pcmtec said: Just had an idea. If you set up the permanent fuel cut on gear shift for the BF which is very rough at low revs/low throttle (eg you would never drive around town like this) as an extra tune you could enable this for the drag track etc as a separate tune you enable. You could also enable/set up a flex tune and wire up the TPS or boost sensor to the rear o2 sensor and interpolate the torque reduction based on throttle/boost level to make it drivable. A lot of stuffing around, but if you are DIY and bored it would work and probably quite well. how do you propose the settings to do fuel cut on gearshift only @Roland@pcmtec ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda598 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 On 12/17/2020 at 10:06 AM, BeerTurbo said: ok, so for trans shift if we set spark to a high number, say .9 and above and give it full authority over other cuts aka 1. set the enleanment to 1.75 and disabled throttle cut. car verry slowly revs down with no noises. not fast enough for the zf and no noises. set the enleanment to rich, my case .88, no throttle cuts, will make a hecken antilag style backfire on gearshift and once again not be fast enough to tq reduce. set enleanment to to super rich .75 just increases the backfire noises. so that was a fun experement. in short i dont think we can have it. haha. ive tried this afew times with no success. just trying to do it for a laugh. mind if i inbox you about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerTurbo Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 30 minutes ago, yoda598 said: ive tried this afew times with no success. just trying to do it for a laugh. mind if i inbox you about it? send me the file, ill see if i can dig up an old one of mine and compare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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