Roland@pcmtec Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) To log up to 8 analog inputs (or 16 with a different cable) you can use the following analog input cable from DigiKey. It is approximately $45 + delivery. Free delivery if you spend over $60. https://www.digikey.com.au/product-detail/en/DLP-IO8-G/813-1010-ND/1894342/?itemSeq=286026595 The driver is already included in the PCMTEC Editor installer so no extra software is needed. They do have a package on their website to test the cable separately to our software if you want which can be downloaded here. https://www.dlpdesign.com/usb/io8.shtml To wire up your DLP cable you can read the data sheet here or follow our test pictures below. http://www.dlpdesign.com/usb/dlp-io8-ds-v17.pdf Wiring If you have 1 wideband, simply wire the ground to the ground pin, wire the postive input to pin 1, next loop the rest of the input pins (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) to ground to stop the signals floating. You don't have to do this, but the inputs will likely read 5v if you don't. If you have 2 widebands, simply do the same and wire the second sensor to pin 2 and remove the ground loop from pin 2. Here we have looped the ground pins on input 5-6-7-8-GND to stop the signals floating. Ensure drivers are correctly installed. If not then use the direct link: http://www.dlpdesign.com/cdm21228certified.zip Show look like this inside Device Manager: In PCMTEC press the DLP button in the datalogging screen to connect to the cable. Next select which of the 8 analog inputs you would like to log here: To To change the description/units press F2 to enter Edit mode, then click in the Units field and type the new Units Note: Unit Edit - Version 2.0 onwards only To modify the voltage lookup table right click and pick "Equation" You can enter in a new voltage lookup table here to suit your wideband etc. 5v = 5120 and 1v = 1024. Eg 1024 * voltage = A/D count If you have data from your wideband documentation that for example specified 1.2 lambda at 4.5v and 0.55 lambda at 1v you would enter the data as follows: 1v *1024 = 1024 A/D 4.5v * 1024 = 4608 A/D So your table will be: 0, 0.55 1024; 0.55 4608; 1.2 5120; 1.2 ..repeat 5120; 1.2 This will clamp your lambda reading between 0.55 and 1.2 lambda. Display Range To adjust the display range, right click on the scalar and Adjust Range (or right click on the chart scales) You can then see the adjusted range in the chart Edited July 13, 2022 by Matt@pcmtec Updated images 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanStraffa Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Have you done an equation for an AFR gauge? Or all AFR gauges are different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 hours ago, DanStraffa said: Have you done an equation for an AFR gauge? Or all AFR gauges are different? They are all different and will provide their own voltage lookup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshmy Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Can you use a innovate LC1 serial input to log afr? Thanks Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I just ordered one of these and the total was $87 with shipping. I chucked a set of screwdrivers in the cart to get the total over $60 and the total came down to $67. Winning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/3/2020 at 9:45 PM, Joshmy said: Can you use a innovate LC1 serial input to log afr? It is on the cards but we have a few other items to do first. Namely get the datalogger out of beta, then add mustang logging support. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Can you insert the dlp log into the vehicle log to view the afr against rpm etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Nvm I went outside to take a look and it automatically inserted itself at the top of the channel list. 🙃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 There is a DLP button to manually connect it on its own if you need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 On 5/3/2020 at 4:38 PM, DanStraffa said: Have you done an equation for an AFR gauge? Or all AFR gauges are different? I just set up my techedge and it was straight forward. 0V = 9 afr and 5V = 19 afr. With the equation, I literally put a 9 and a 19 in the first and second cells respectively in the right column and it was done. It will interpolate between the first 2 vertical cells so there is no need to use the entire column. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Is it possible to use the 20 Chanel version? https://www.digikey.com.au/product-detail/en/dlp-design-inc/DLP-IO20/813-1027-ND/2135093 Is there a limit in the software as to how many aux analog channels can be logged? thanks jake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 10:32 PM, Jake said: Is it possible to use the 20 Chanel version?https://www.digikey.com.au/product-detail/en/dlp-design-inc/DLP-IO20/813-1027-ND/2135093 Is there a limit in the software as to how many aux analog channels can be logged? thanks jake. I will find out tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 There is an arbitrary limit of 8 at the moment, only because no one has logged more than 1 input to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, Roland@pcmtec said: There is an arbitrary limit of 8 at the moment, only because no one has logged more than 1 input to date. No dramas, I’m a little way of having all my instrumentation finished (need isolation cash😉)so 8 will do for a bit. thanks, jake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevenbruzz Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Does the software allow the ability for serial port data input? I have a AEM Wideband with serial out just want to know if the software will detect it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Almost every wideband is going to output a 0 to 5 volt signal. Usually it is on a spare wire that isn't connected to the wb gauge. You connect this wire to the DLP8, which in turn is connected to your computer via USB. You can configure PCMTec to output a data channel based on whatever signal the DLP8 is seeing. So it goes; wideband=>DLP=>USB/PCMTec The first post in the thread shows you how to set it up. Have a read of this for what the DLP8 can do and how it works: https://www.dlpdesign.com/usb/dlp-io8-ds-v17.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 13 hours ago, Stevenbruzz said: Does the software allow the ability for serial port data input? I have a AEM Wideband with serial out just want to know if the software will detect it It is on the list for one day, however we don't get many requests for it so the priority is quite low. Unlikely to happen before mid next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevew Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I have an Innovate DLG-1 Wideband with serial out also and would be great to have support for it. Looking forward to the future. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm600 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Hi All, I have a spare DLP8(bought 2 'cause it gets free postage and figured it could help someone else out) So, If anyone wants one, send me a message and you can have it for $45 inc. postage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) I'm trying to change the name of the dlp input per the first post in the thread, however pressing F2 does nothing. Is there another way to change the name? Edited February 28, 2021 by Puffwagon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt@pcmtec Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Press F2 to enter edit mode, and then click on the name and you should get your cursor to change the name 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Cheers I'll try it this afternoon after work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Yeah f2 is doing nothing. I've tried it connected, disconnected and all kinds of different ways. Nothing is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanStraffa Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 This isn’t to do with what you are after I think @Puffwagon but I found if you want to change the units of what you are datalogging make a datalog save it, open it, play it, and pause it then you can change the units and it’ll change it when you datalog again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Ah ok thanks, I'll give that a try tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) Alrighty I tried that and after a few clicks of start and pause and then pressing F2, the log disappeared and then nothing would happen. I reloaded a log and F2 is doing nothing again. I know I have my moments but surely I can't be so daft as to not be able to follow simple instructions?! Edited March 3, 2021 by Puffwagon Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 Are you clicking on the dlp entry in the scalar list on the left hand side then pressing f2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Yep. I literally just did that and nothing is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda598 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Mine isn't happy. I wouldn't think not having them looped to stop signal float would stop it connecting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 4 hours ago, yoda598 said: Mine isn't happy. You might have to reinstall the drivers for the dlp8 cos mine wouldn't connect until I did that, even though it had been working previously. Also I'm pretty sure you have to run a wire from the wb- to the wb gnd. At least that is how mine is set up, although it's been freaking ages since I read the techedge instructions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda598 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I can't find mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 It's all online. Scroll to the bottom for the drivers https://www.dlpdesign.com/ Here's the instructions for the techedge http://wbo2.com/2j/default.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda598 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Your a legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 20 hours ago, Puffwagon said: You might have to reinstall the drivers for the dlp8 cos mine wouldn't connect until I did that, even though it had been working previously. Shouldn't need any drivers installed for the DLP cable as we embed the usb/serial driver in the pcmtec installer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt@pcmtec Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 DLP devices use the FTDI drivers which come with Windows drivers by default these days. You can check the device inside Device Manager > Ports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt@pcmtec Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Make sure to connect all unused inputs (2-8) to the black (ground) line to prevent 'flapping' neighbour signals affecting your main signal on pin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt@pcmtec Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Quote I reloaded a log and F2 is doing nothing again Pressing F2 (and then click the parameter) during log playback will not change the names. Just tested 1.25 and looks like rename list items is only available in 2.00 when connected to the DLP in 'live' mode. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 It would be handy to rename items as the afr/dlp8 input is listed as volts for now. I knew that the drivers are bundled with PCMTec and also in windows, however I was having the fail to connect issue and I resolved it with a driver reinstall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanStraffa Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 @Roland@pcmtec remember I had trouble with mine and I had drivers not installed then once I installed them it worked, might be the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lag6 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Have we found a fix for when pressing F2 to change the name / unit doesn't work?? Have tried many different scenarios.. and remembering dlp1 as afr and dlp2 as fuel pressure etc is a little taxing 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda598 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Mines the same hahah. Afr in dlp1 and fuel pressure dlp2! Absolutely brilliant for figuring out whats limiting your setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 Have to wait for 2.00 Appreciate your patience! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 6/10/2021 at 11:43 AM, Roland@pcmtec said: Have to wait for 2.00 Appreciate your patience! How long ya reckon Roland? Also how is the tuning course coming along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 When its done and when its done. Could be anytime in the next month and next year, time estimates are basically impossible. 2.0 is finished but we are doing QA now and it all comes down to how many bugs we find and how long they take to finish, the other one comes down to a third party's time availability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Seems reasonable 😁 Looking forward to seeing what you guys have cooked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racca Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) hi sorry newby trying to follow the above instructions but need some clarification. Under wiring above sez "wire the ground to the ground pin, wire the postive input to pin 1" Can't find any documentation for LSU4.9 that clearly points out (to me anyway) positive and ground wires. Would generally expect the red to be positive and the black to be ground but online research has confused me saying that the common/yellow wire is the positive and the pump/red wire is the ground. Is that correct? With only 2 wires connected does it perform its heating function? Edited July 15, 2021 by racca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 You cant directly connect a wideband. It needs to be connected to a controller to control the heater circuit. There are many wideband controllers out there that provide a 0-5v analog input. Zeitronix, innovate, aem, w2o2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyH Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 i clicked on to the digikey website and it states 12 week leadtime for the dlp108, is this the only unit compatible with pcmtec? im not tech savvy so excuse the question . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland@pcmtec Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 21 hours ago, TommyH said: i clicked on to the digikey website and it states 12 week leadtime for the dlp108, is this the only unit compatible with pcmtec? im not tech savvy so excuse the question . That is news to us! I'll see if we can arrange a bulk order. They used to be available in regular stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) On 11/7/2021 at 2:42 PM, Roland@pcmtec said: That is news to us! I'll see if we can arrange a bulk order. They used to be available in regular stock. @Roland@pcmtec I've been looking at getting one too & have seen DigiKey show Nil stock as does Mouser & RS AU don't seem to list them & some suppliers are saying discontinued. I don't know if DLP Design have discontinued them or the sellers. The only place I've found showing stock is https://ex-en.alliedelec.com/product/dlp-design/dlp-io8-g/70372089/?keyword=70372089 I was going to order one today but if you're considering doing a bulk order, I might be better off waiting if you're going look into to do a bulk order....The DLP-IO14 & DLP-IO20 both are available through DigiKey but are overkill & much more expensive. Let us know what you come up with & expected time frames or if we should be sourcing one. Edited November 9, 2021 by Bill Updated link for Australian customers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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